un amico mi ha segnalato questa spiacevole decisione:

Da Horizons Unliited

"Western Desert
- 23 below Latitude (Uweinat, southern Gilf)
per group in 2436 Egyptian pounds / day
+ 2 police cars and nine police officers armed + a military officer

- 23 above the Latitude (northern Gilf and Big Sand Sea)
per group in 1524 Egyptian pounds / day
+ A police car and four armed policemen + a military officer "

praticamente ogni giro diventa una spedizione militare!
fortuna che volevano promuovere il turismo egiziano....

Che palle !!!!!

Ciao Marko,
Dovrei partire a Novembre e visto che sei molto informato, mi sai dire se il tragitto SIWA- Russian Spring-Ain Dalla-Farafra-Dakla-Luxor-Asswan-Wadi Alfa, sono esenti da limitazioni di permessi.

Ciao Eros,
il mio informato e' dato dal consulto di altri forum, le notizie sono qua http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/sahara-travel-forum/egyptian-gilf-restrictions-51817
da quello che ho capito le restrizioni sono solo per GSS, western desert

E io che pensavo fossero cari i parchi in Tanzania...

Targui hai novità da riferire? il plotone militare di accompagnamento è realtà?

Ciao Marko,
Partirò in Novembre ed andrò in Sudan, quindi non passeremo dal
Gilf Kebir, ma faremo il deserto bianco da Siwa a Farafra- Dakhla e poi giù sino ad Assuan,con imbarco su chiatta per Wadi Alpha. Obbligo di Guida, ma non avremo la scorta militare prevista per la zona del Gilf Kebir.

ciao Targui, conosci i costi giornalieri per la guida? grazie

Ciao trovi una nota postata erroneamente nel thread del ferry, te la riporto:



Mi pare comunque si stia discutendo di tariffe orarie. Questo quanto mi ha riferito scorsa settimana una guida egiziana.
Le ultime procedure previste dal Ministero del Turismo Egiziano, tratte dal sito Horizon Unlimited, sono le seguenti:

Director in charge of the company
Chamber member companies, travel agencies and tourism.
Greetings,,,
Referring to what was reported to us from the Egyptian General الھیئة to promote tourism on the procedures
Organizational desert safaris in Western Sahara, as well as insurance services, which
ستتولاھا أجھزة Ministry of the Interior ..
We would like to take أنھ have been put controls and procedures to be followed to organize safaris
And are as follows:
ھیئة for tourism to be the following:
First: To provide الھیئة Egyptian Tourism Development the following documents:
1 - a detailed itinerary.
2 - Map shown علیھا itinerary and places of Mount and stop tourists on a scale
Appropriate.
3 - Statement of the names of tourists and بیاناتھم personal reality and passports to be edited
Arabic for the Arab nationalities and in English for foreign nationalities to append
Passport Photos سفرھم.
4 - Statement means the transition will be استخدامھا through the implementation of the flight and data drivers.
5 - is to get a letter stamped by the الھیئة Facility بھ made the trip all the previous requirements
Facility بھ company's request for the implementation of the journey.
As for the short safari trips which are limited to areas of the provinces of safari
October, Matruh and New Valley to the area by Farafra ھیئة Tourism notification
الاجھزة security of those flights for briefing before موعدھا 72 hours to be communicated to الھیئة
All applications mentioned above.
- Was approved by the Minister of Tourism to take the ministry of the value of 50% of the cost of insurance, as well as
The ministry holds 50% of the cost of expenses of the armed forces

Second: to inform the relevant security الاجھزة Interior Ministry to ensure the safari and so on as
Follows:
- Secure long-haul crew guarding the entire number (2) SUV if the number of
Members of the flight more than 12 tourists, or if the itinerary beyond the latitude of 23
Toward the south, regardless of the number of افرادھا ھذه In case the value of the service insurance
203 جنیھ for every two hours.
- Long-haul flights of more than 12 tourists أفرادھا does not include برنامجھا crossed the line
Showing 23 to the south فإنھ تأمینھا will be a low-power four-wheel drive car in
ھذه situation would be the value of the insurance service جنیھ 127 for every two hours.
Third: funders and notified the competent الھیئة أنھ in the case of non-compliance companies بھذه Help
فإنھ will take legal action �*یالھا.
Fourth: ھذه note that the instructions will be dealt from خلالھا starting from the first of September
.2010
V.: The mechanism of payment:
- Determine the mechanism for the payment of the insurance value of the guard is close to full payment of the insurance value of
The company implemented according to the value of the specific central - Payment by check is acceptable - at
Police General Directorate of Tourism and Antiquities event notification and delivery of the flight on behalf of Mr.
Major General / Director General Department of Tourism and Antiquities Police.
- Is provided out of a delivery receipt for the check and check image is recognized and benefit from the tourism police
The implementation of the journey as your receipt as indicated.
- Are grouped Touch مساھمة ministry of Sacrifice insurance follows:

Statement of the value of the specified insurance from the Ministry of Interior to secure safari Long:
M the itinerary number of tourists force the amount of insurance the insurance تت�*ملھ
Company
1 long journey beyond the line
View 23 in a southerly direction
More than 12 individual 2-drive vehicles
Quad
جنیھ 203 per hour
Example
(Trip for 14 days)
14 × 12 × 203
Total
34 104
50% of the cost of
Insurance =
17 052
2 long trip does not exceed the line
View 23 in a southerly direction
Less than 12 person-drive vehicles
Quad
جنیھ 127 per hour
Example:
(Trip for 14 days)
14 × 12 × 127
Total
21 336
50% of the cost of
Insurance =
10 668
21336 = 12 × 127 × the amount owed per trip is less than 12 tourists = 14
34104 = 12 × 203 × the amount owed per trip more than 12 tourists = 14
The number of hours a day) × cost of insurance for each hour × (number of days of the trip
% 7700 value of 50 = 5.5 × $ 100 × 1 × the value of insurance for the armed forces = 14
3850 جنیھ =
Exchange rate) × amount of insurance that the number of flights × × (number of days of flight
- Payment is under the sign of the tourism police check acceptable payment on behalf of Rear Admiral / Director
Police General Directorate of Tourism.
- The armed forces shall be reimbursed affairs department morale.
Please take the briefing,,,
Thank you for your cooperation great, to wish you continued success.
Yours respectfully,,,
Reports
2010 Riyadh Cain / 9 / 14
Egyptian Travel Agents Association - E.T.T.A - Home Page

accidenti che cifre! vediamo se ho capito bene..per andare verso il sudan con due macchine bisogna pagare circa 330 euro per la scorta militare e circa 220 per la guida? totale circa 550 euro/giorno? mi confermi? se così cambio programma.....sempre più rognoso andare per africa...